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- Cambridge.Stuart
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Seneye Pond Review
Evening gents and I am both pleased and embarrassed too say I have one of these new gadgets. I will give a brief review
Looks nice
connects either too the mains or a USB plug into the mains (ipod charger) and can be connected too a wireless printer USB.
You download software from the net
The slides cost £6 per month and will measure 2800 perameters each month (once every 30 minutes)
very simple too setup, place slide in a glass of pond water for 24 hours or install into device and ignore the first days readings.
The slide time in the software counts down from 30 to 0 days then you SHOULD replace the slide as Seneye say the reading may become inaccurate.
Measures PH, Free Ammonia NH3,Temperature
All sounds too good to be true…………………… read on
I use a Hanna to do my water testing and will continue to do so…. I have a seneye pond in my easy pod connected too a net book which uploads reading too the website.
My hanna reading are :-
Ammonia (Total) 0.09 equates too 0.005 Free Ammonia
PH 7.9
Temperature 21.8
Seneye
Free Ammonia 0.013
PH 8.22
Temperature 21.8
In the past few days I have been alerted by email from Seneye that my PH is going critical 8.48 when the actual reading is 7.9 – 8.0 I am told by Seneye it takes a while for ther slides too get accuracy
The ammonia is consistently at present way out, I wonder if the fish are having an LSD party.
but it is a great remote temperature probe………….
yes I purchased a seneye pond and a years worth of slides, Im just hoping they get the device too be alittle more accurate… the support guys on 01223 911075 are very pleasant too talk too and will go on about lab test devices measuring low if exspensive and high if Cheap……. about the way the device measures and today I was told too use the readings the device gives you as a guide knowing that the actual values as given by my hanna are correct and then you can tell if the values change up or down. That was at 11:12 today when the PH reading was just about 8.48 and rising (hanna reading 7.9) this evening the seneye says 8.22 which is a drop of 0.26 so you would expect my PH to be bearing in mind what I was told today to be 7.63, SURPRISE the hanna reports my PH as being 8.0…………….
Thats an honest review……..
*UPDATE*
Well I have now been using this device for just over a week and can report that today it is spot on the only difference being the PH, seneye device says 8.23 and the hanna 8.1……. all other values correlate with free ammonia calculations and so im getting more convinced this works. A good device for monitoring your pond and then using very occasionally the usual methods to quantify…….
I would suggest that this is going to be an essential device towards Koi pond keeping and over time will become more and more accurate. As seneye say the more data it collects the better it gets at predicting trends. Ill keep you all informed how it goes in my pond.
Just dont strike it from your pressie list just yet!
Merry Christmas
If you go by the average readings the Device is Spot on and so Im beginning too think a worth while investment
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- mike k
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
Stuart,
Well done to you on the review. Interesting to see what you think again in the future.
Is there any talk of measuring nitrite or nitrate, kh etc in the future.
Mike
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- Cambridge.Stuart
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
Hi
Thankyou for your response, yes Seneye say in the very near future they’ll release an upgrade which
Will enable their device too measure another 5 perameters, Gh, Kh , nitrite etc….
Just been out and checked seneye and it seems too have settled down and is reporting very satisfactory
Results……… Very consistent with my Hanna
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- brek
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
Hmm, once they add the additional functionality I would buy it, sounds a good product.
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- Cambridge.Stuart
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
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- Boo
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
brek wrote:Hmm, once they add the additional functionality I would buy it, sounds a good product.
Yep, same ere.
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- rhorun
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
something like this would be ideal for me esp as I am colour blind which plays havok on testing lol good job the mrs is onside
so I will be watching esp if they add the extras
Colin
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- Cambridge.Stuart
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
Hi
The additional tests will be about six months according to Seneye today
They will be in the form of a digital all in one monitor which will be dipped when reading required and uploaded too website for viewing
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- mit
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
I’d be very interested too, but only when the other parameters are added. Would be a very handy bit of kit! Thanks for the heads up.
Tim
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- Cambridge.Stuart
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
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- james.41
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
Hi Guys,
After a number of phone calls asking the same questions (some people of this forum)
Seneye is not looking to bring out replacement devices, but there will be software updates that are available free to download for life.
Seneye will be adding “digi-strip” reading to the devices which will be available soon. (Clorine, nitrate, nitrite ect)
There will also be a wireless addon coming out in around 6 months
Regards
James
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- LCunningham5566
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
james.41 wrote:There will also be a wireless addon coming out in around 6 months
Now that makes the device more appealing. I never saw the point of having to take the laptop out into the filter shed to download the info….
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- james.41
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
LCunningham5566 wrote: Now that makes the device more appealing. I never saw the point of having to take the laptop out into the filter shed to download the info….
You can buy a Belkin home base to make the device wireless, or depending how far your house is away from the pond / filters you can run an active extension in to a laptop.
Cambridge.Stuart wrote:The slides cost £6 per month and will measure 2800 perameters each month (once every 30 minutes)
very simple too setup, place slide in a glass of pond water for 24 hours or install into device and ignore the first days readings.
you don’t want to ignore placing the slide in glass of pond water for 24 hours every month, when you view your seneye account your charts over a month / all data will have incorrect data in them !!
We have not had any devices returned to us or had customer’s with problems. Seneye are planning big things for there new range !
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- Carl
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
Good god, u lot are mad lol.
I’d like to thank Stuart for a good unbiased review on these and he should be applauded for this
However, it’s all aload of garbage, designed to empty your pockets for something that YOU DO NOT NEED. Koi keeping is very simple, pump must be running at a certain speed through the filter and the PH should be between 7-8.5. That’s it, done and dusted in a nutshell. All other parameters are in check if the PH is correct and the pump is working. All we really need is a cheap reliable ph test kit like api for instance, and that’s the only test kit you need. A thermometer is another good idea to have. Soft water people may buy a KH test kit but really you only need ph test and buffer regularly for us softies
U lot a talking wireless this, laptop in sheds, static ip’s to email or sms a mobile, £6 per month for new slides. good grief
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- sharky09
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
I must admit that i saw this in the local garden center just over a month back and was thinking that it looks good, but i can agree mostly with Carl, is it something i really need to get? No doubt it would be great to have a 24/7 sensor in the pond and it would have to have good reviews from fellow koi keepers before i paid for one, i mean who would take the risk and use this alone, you’d surely still need to use your test kit that you use now to cross reference the results?
Well done to Stuart tho, for his review
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- Manky Sanke
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
Until now, I’ve deliberately stayed out of this. But the last points are very important and as I’ve been involved for the past thirty years in electronically measuring water parameters including remote display of those parameters, this is my view.
Electronic measurement of parameters can reduce the workload of staff in public swimming pool complexes or leisure centres etc (where my equipment goes) but, whether I’m installing my own designs or other manufacturers’ equipment, I stress to the managers that no equipment can be regarded as 100% reliable unless it is regularly checked and recalibrated if necessary.
I tell them that it’s okay to check the equipment several times per day to see that all readings look normal to comply with ‘elf ‘n’ safety regs, but their staff should still do basic manual tests at least once per week to confirm the equipment is accurate.
Koi keeping isn’t a cheap hobby and it’s your choice how you spend your money so, if you wish to buy equipment that does all sorts of pleasing things like having data follow you where-ever you are and if you think the initial cost and ongoing costs represent good value for money, by all means do so. BUT, never forget that no manufacturer will ever guarantee that their equipment will read 100% accurate 100% of the time so you should never regard this sort of equipment as a replacement for your normal test regime. You must still do your water parameter tests as normal to ensure the “follow me” data is accurate.
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- Cambridge.Stuart
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
UPDATE
To all that have commented on this post………… Thankyou.
I purchased one of these Seney devices mainly cause I as many will know was testing constantly using my hanna. In the past few weeks it has been installed my testing rate as reduced drastically. i have tested twice just too verify the data obtained by the seneye and after initial discrepancies I am very pleased too see rather pleasing results. I have a constant readout of pond water parameters and its intersting too see (I need to get more friends ) ammonia levels pulsing throughout the day as feeding takes place. I am finding it particularily useful as my pond is heated and still at 23 degrees the amount of food i can feed without making the water “dangerous” and have been able too double feeding and still maintain safe limits. I will continue updating in the coming weeks and so far I am very pleased. I have a netbook constantly attached too it but you dont need too have. just plug it into an Ipod USB mains and it records the levels, then once every few days plug it into a laptop and it will upload data. IM seriously considering a WiFi printer Hub but I love gadgets……….
Now wheres my telephone contacts book. Must phone some friends…………
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- Cambridge.Stuart
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
UPDATE
My initial glee is beginning to be replaced by WTF have I got here. The data and infact the readings in the last ten days have begun too go astray. The chaps at Seneye are very nice too speak too dont get me wrong. Today I have had a call and been told that my Hanna which I think we will all agree is a pond keeper bible is infact inaccurate I am beginning to smell BS!……. I susupect the slide which is supposed too last 30 days has already failed. I have tested against my inaccurate Hanna and the hanna readings were
Ammonia 0.17 after a heavy feeding day at 8pm
PH 8.0
my pond temp is 23
Seneye reading
Free ammonia 0.02
Ph 8.14
Temp 21.25
I have inputted this data into a free ammonia calculator and the level should read around 0.006…..
anyone spot anything. I am considering replacing the slide too see if the readings become more realistic.
My view is this product needs more work and it may have made it too the market place alittle premature. If it continues like this then it may very wekk end up in theback of a cobweb filled cupboard
MERRY CHRISTMAS ONE AND ALL
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- LCunningham5566
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
Cambridge.Stuart wrote:My view is this product needs more work and it may have made it too the market place alittle premature. If it continues like this then it may very wekk end up in theback of a cobweb filled cupboard
MERRY CHRISTMAS ONE AND ALL
I wouldn’t be putting it in the cupboard, I’d be sending it back with a note “NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE!
And demand your FULL money back.
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- Cambridge.Stuart
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Re: Seneye Pond Review
MERRY CHRISTMAS ONE AND ALL
I have spent a few hours researching and comparing information regarding the Hanna which we all think is very accurate when in fact I have founf the company do not say it is accurate too the lowest of level and will report zero even when levels are still @ 0.04Mg/l……
I have been watching the information reported by the seneye and wait for it
I think I yes I am being too hasty on my new toy. so much so that I have been out and purchased it a wifi USB hub as a sorry present.
I think if you use this device as I think it is intended to be used too monitor and give advance warning then it is perfectly adiquate for purpose…. Prudance would say that you would quantify the data with another process if you become concerned but I will say it has reduced the amount of testing I have done and so in the long run will work out cost effective
STICK IT ON YOUR NEW YEARS RESOLUTION LIST
or continue too watch this space
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